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: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 24, 2013, 11:07:39 PM
Had a great time last year meeting some of the Winnipeg area members. I'm hoping to do another trip to the Whiteshell, January 9-11. It would be great to have some members from NW Ontario or the northen US come as well!

Let me know if you're available.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Harlan October 25, 2013, 12:41:52 PM
Hey would you guys be interested in coming up to Red Lake to do a gathering in Woodland Caribou Provincial Park?  We are just getting our new winter program going and will be offering trips and gear rentals as well as access into the park.

This would be a great way to explore Woodland Caribou and up until this winter, nobody's ever really gone into the interior over the winter months.  Ice fishing and Boreal exploring options are endless.

Myself and another would be up for joining in on the fun if you guys decided to give it a try up here.

We have all the maps, trip planning info etc... too so we could take care of the planning.

Is this an option?

Harlan
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: Bothwell Voyageur October 25, 2013, 02:10:35 PM
If it was going to be for a week then yes that sounds fantastic but for just a couple of days I'm not sure I can justify the long trek up the Red Lake Road. Maybe one year we'll trek from one side of WCPP to the other just like a few folk have done in Quetico!

Last year we picked our venue so that it was not too far from the Trans-Canada Highway, not remote but accessible for those travelling from a bit further away.

Grizzly Adam and I have been chatting over ideas this morning. We're learning a lot about what makes a good winter trekking route so I'm sure we'll be able to come up with a few options.

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 25, 2013, 02:17:59 PM
Harlan,

I'll admit that it is tempting, but it looks like it would be a 7-8 hour drive one way for me to get there. As BV said, if we were to plan a longer trip I would definitely be interested. I'm limited in January, but with more notice I could possibly get a longer period off in Feb-Mar (not sure what my wife would say though).

The Whiteshell is nice because it is easy to access. I certainly wouldn't rule out going somewhere else, but I'd like to avoid driving 16 hours for two days in the bush.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut October 26, 2013, 01:37:31 PM
I'm all in. but yes the less driving the better. I just got a baker tent that I'm itching to try out.
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: toban_bison October 26, 2013, 10:59:06 PM
If this is open to everyone, I am very interested in coming. I am confident I can get the time off work, but once the details are hammered down, I'll have to confirm. I'll watch the tread for any updates.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 26, 2013, 11:32:05 PM
It certainly is welcome to everyone. With my work schedule being what it is the dates are pretty much firm, but as we get closer we'll be hammering out location and other minor details.

Keep watching this thread for information.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam October 28, 2013, 01:46:07 PM
Im ALL IN fella's maybe we could try the Caddy lake canoe route this year, there is sled access over the tracks for the tunnels. Or maybe some were up around Davidson lake MB/Ont Troughing in the thoughts. cheere Grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 29, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
Just took a look at Caddy Lake. Do the tunnels freeze up, or is the water too swift through there?
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur October 29, 2013, 06:11:30 PM
I'm pretty sure the water stays open or would be thin and a bit risky at best. Lake levels vary quite a bit from one side of the rail line to the other. In the spring the flow is very strong.

Grizz and I  did find a route that bypasses Caddy, going direct to South Cross (dead fox trail!) so that could be an option. I am slightly reluctant to camp on South Cross as it gets hammered during the summer. see these pictures from the shoreline cleanup that we did in September.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.643134989059751.1073741828.100000897685850&type=1&l=32aeb00bce (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.643134989059751.1073741828.100000897685850&type=1&l=32aeb00bce)

The bush around any flat camping spot was rich in TP flowers and piles of poop  :(

Anyway no hurry to decide on routes. Lets see what the weather brings. Other options could be War Eagle Lake from Brereton or Cabin Lake from White Lake or lots further north into Nopiming or off the Bloodvein Rd up the east side of Lake Winnipeg.

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 29, 2013, 07:39:14 PM
BV, you and Grizz are far more familiar than I am with that area. I submit to your expertise. If there is an area you'd like to check out, I'm up for it.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: toban_bison October 29, 2013, 10:45:40 PM
Just to clarify the dates - Starting on Thursday (Jan 9) and return Saturday (Jan 11)?
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 30, 2013, 12:02:39 AM
Unless it ends up being a problem for a lot of people, yes.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut October 30, 2013, 12:34:08 AM
what about doing a trip from Falcon Lake to the Far side of High Lake or onto one of the islands? I know the Christi family who run the Falcon lake resort. there would be secure parking and not a bad hike in. some of it might be along a gravel road 2km tops (from the falcon lake resort to High lake. with no vehicle traffic) and then we're onto the lake. we could pick a nice little south facing bay and do some day hikes from there.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier October 30, 2013, 01:16:36 AM
Sounds fine to me. Do you know what the water depth is on that lake? I was surprised how shallow everything was where we camped last time. You don't expect to have to use snow melt when you're parked inbetween two 'lakes'
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur October 30, 2013, 11:04:17 AM
High Lake sounds interesting. I've been in there via the portage for a day trip but never camped. Do they run ATVs on those trails in the winter. We tried pulling a toboggan along a trail with ATV ruts last winter and it was just about impossible to keep it from tipping on to its side.

I'm not sure which ones are groomed for skiing?

It's a very pretty lake. Probably best to avoid an island. The way you guys burn wood there would be nothing left by the end of the trip!

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 07, 2013, 10:56:18 AM
so where are we with this? is it going to be High lake? who's coming?
after this cold snap things should be freezing up nicely.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: GearFreak December 07, 2013, 12:32:22 PM
Hi,

I had hoped to try to get out with some of you more experienced winter hot tenters but can't make these dates work as I am going to be out with a different group in Riding Mountain that weekend.  I should have my tent & stove by then as they were shipped last week.  I will meet BV as he is making a sled for me.

Another time.


: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier December 07, 2013, 10:30:04 PM
Sorry to hear, hopefully we'll be able to have you out on another trip.

I'm fine trying out High Lake, although I'll need someone to give me a rough idea of where it is in the Whiteshell.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 08, 2013, 01:03:26 AM
find Falcon lake, go to the east end jump over a spit of land and there is high lake. sorry thats seems rude, High Lake is the one that sits on the border between Manitoba and Ontario. I'd like to hug the Northern shore so we have a nice south facing bay.
access would be from the falcon lake trails resort on the south side of the lake. it's a little over 2km from the resort to High lake. then a nice pull across the lake and find a nice spot.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur December 08, 2013, 09:19:14 PM
I have another trekker (non-member) interested in coming along to this. He is a teacher from Winnipeg and used to take his kids into High Lake on winter trips. I sold him a toboggan last winter. They used to rent one of the eco- cabins as an emergency backup in case they had a hypothermic child etc. He should be a good source of info. on possible camp spots. He is also a good friend of the Christy(?) family so has offered to help with any arrangements that may be required for group parking etc.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 09, 2013, 10:10:43 AM
excellent! secure parking with the possibility of a starting boost is always a comfort.  how was you outing yesterday with grizz?
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam December 09, 2013, 10:16:20 AM
Broke both rawhide main beams on my shoes fn GV crap , getting them re strung by Lynne at snowshoe sales and repairs and buying a pair of 11X40 trails for the wife at the same time. But had fun anyways cheers Grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur December 09, 2013, 09:01:11 PM
Breaking the rawhide was really bad news. Maybe those bindings are too rigid for the rawhide?

Some info. from Dean re. access to High Lake from Falcon-

"There are excellent hard-packed x-c ski trials from the top of the ski hill in to High Lake. One begins near the Falcon Trails "maintenance yard" more than half-way up the ski hill and beside the normal public access road. Might be a good place to start, if we have permission from Falcon Trails. We'd have to do our best to keep our snowshoes and toboggans off the set x-c ski tracks - the trail is wide enough to accomplish this. There is also a new (2-year-old) trail, usually packed for x-c ski travel that heads south from the public road about a km west of the resort (no permission needed). This second option starts at a lower elevation and has more hills :( "

I think the second trail he refers to is the Trans-Canada Trail shown on here
http://falconridgeski.com/images/falcon_ridge_ski_trails.jpg (http://falconridgeski.com/images/falcon_ridge_ski_trails.jpg)

Talking to the proprietor at Brereton Lake Restaurant it sounds like the lakes are freezing well. They already have the snowmobile trails out on most.

BV
 

: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 09, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
I know the ski trails like the back of my hand as I mountain bike them in the summer. Also I ran a mountain bike race there a few years running so the area between the lakes is like my back yard. I have always wanted to see the other side of High lake though.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam December 19, 2013, 12:03:01 PM
Bad news I have a Scouts Canada Winter camping training session that I am helping with on the 10 and 11 but all is not lost as I will come out for the 9 and part of the 10. Seems that these leaders need some serious help, they havent got a clue lol, apperantly their logic is that if things get bad they can just leave attitude. We all know what winter entails and some times you cannot "just leave" , I tried to explain the importance of some basic survival skills and was met with the "it can't happen to me gung ho attitude" so I think a bit of challange schooling is in order.

Kinda pisses me off a bit that people in charge of teaching others and in care of peoples childern would have that type of response, You would think that they of all people would understand that they need to be trained appropriately to deal with such circumstances that could happen in winter. sorry for the small rant guys. I'm definitly having a few drinks on the 9th just to calm my nerves for thr 10th lol cheers Grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam December 19, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
Sorry guys I had a brain fart , I was thinking that we could meet before the trip possibly at one of the ski huts in birds hill park one evening to discuss trip stuff. There is a shack off of the 206 hwy 2k north of the east entrance or we could meet else where, Rick and my friend Jon are also wanting to come so if this works let me know on a date asap. cheers grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier December 19, 2013, 03:50:14 PM
Okay, so seeing as we are getting close to the date, we might as well finalize some details. Grizz, were you suggesting meeting at the shack as a place to park the vehicles, or will there be a better place?

Regardless, lets aim to meet at/near Falcon Lake at 10am on January 9th. We'll find a camp spot on High Lake, and return on January 11th. A quick google search shows that there is a Falcon Beach Ranch (http://www.falconbeachranch.com/), not sure whether we would be able to use that as a parking spot. Does anyone know whether it is used during the winter?

From the sounds of it, we are going to have the following people:

Did I miss anyone?
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur December 19, 2013, 06:51:14 PM
The location for heading out to High Lake is Falcon Ridge Ski Area- http://falconridgeski.com/about.php#x-country (http://falconridgeski.com/about.php#x-country)

We could always meet at the Ranger Station gas station on the Trans Canada. A good place to sit and drink coffee while waiting for Grizz after he gets lost!

they have a trail map on the website showing various routes into High Lake. Bushnut will know them better than most of us so I leave it up to him to select a route though we'll have to watch out for groomed tracks.

Their trail map show the Trans-Canada trail at the south west corner. Maybe this would be a good option?

I was hoping to stay on until Sunday 12th as it is my birthday!

Dean will likely only be coming along on Saturday. He was doubtful that they would have spare block heater sockets for us to use but at least we have help nearby and somewhere to wait if one of needs CAA!
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur December 19, 2013, 06:57:42 PM
I have just spotted that they have a Biathlon event booked for the 11th. I wonder how this may affect the trails?

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier December 19, 2013, 11:33:09 PM
Personally, I'm more interested in knowing where they'll be shooting...don't want to walk across that field.

For those who have been in that area, how much time will we be spending on the groomed trails? It had sounded to me like we would be primarily doing lake travel.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 20, 2013, 12:03:03 AM
I'd suggest that after parking at the resort we head straight down their access road to high lake. aprox 3km to Manitoba bay. it is their private road so will be groomed by snowmobile on one side and x country ski track on the other the road provides access to their "eco-cabins" on High Lake. no worries about the bi-athalon range we won't be going anywhere near there. As far as Lake travel is concerned we can go as far as we like until we find a nice spot to stop.
though once we hit the lake it might be tougher going.
I also might have a couple of people interested in joining us though neither has confirmed as of yet.
a meet up @ the "ranger" SHELL  station should be OK though the restaurant at the ESSO across the street has better pie.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam December 20, 2013, 09:18:42 AM
Just tell me where to meet up on the 9th and what time some of us will most likely car pool from winnipeg. My navigational skills seem challanged when not in deep woods lol. the shack thing was a pre trip spot to go over logistics and have a fire and brew, without all the hussle and bussle of the city. but may be a problem for everyone to meet up just for a pre trip planning session. As far as I know it will be just Me leaving early If rick and Jon go they will likley stay till the end.cheers Grizz.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur December 20, 2013, 09:25:19 AM
So it sounds like we have a plan!

Meet at the Esso for 10 am.

Convoy to Falcon Ridge parking lot.

Head down the access rd for an hour then off along the lake.

Do we need to let them know we are coming and check on using the road?
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 20, 2013, 09:30:04 AM
probably a good idea. always let someone know were you are going!
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam December 20, 2013, 11:23:18 AM
Should we look at a earlier meet up time as the days are short and we are not sure of a definite camp site yet.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut December 20, 2013, 01:25:41 PM
you might be right there bro.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur January 05, 2014, 07:31:55 PM
Where are we at with this?

I'm currently hoping to share a ride from the city on Thursday morning so that Selena keep the car and then can join me  Saturday.

Forecast is for milder weather toward the end of the week.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier January 06, 2014, 12:17:44 AM
We are still a go. I'm coming down from Ashern that morning, which means I probably need to be on the road between 6-7am to meet everyone around 10am. I see the wisdom in meeting earlier, I just don't think I can make it any earlier. Maybe next year we'll find a spot north of the city, a little less travelling time for me.

Lets keep the plan as 10am at the Esso, and then convoy in from there.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam January 06, 2014, 09:30:30 AM
10 Am esso it is then, just sucks I cannot stay the whole weekend lol. If Rick does not come then I will have room for one in the Truck, It will depend on how he is feeling his PTSD has it's ups and downs this time of year and he knows when to be by himself. cheers
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut January 06, 2014, 10:44:19 AM
I'm in, should have room for you Chis, If you want we can meet up in the city.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur January 07, 2014, 04:25:42 PM
OK so finally got round to checking with Falcon Ridge.

They are fine with us parking but as suspected no power. If temperatures reach the predicted high it shouldn't be problem anyway.

Looking forward to the trip. I believe Grizz has had a special hair cut in anticipation of the mild weather!

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam January 07, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
Da ladies love the fuzz, lol but alass I'm stuck with you blokes lol yall better put out cheers Grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: wildernesstony12 January 15, 2014, 07:52:02 PM
i hope you guys have a great time you went though a lot of planning,please take some pictures.

                                          Peace Brothers eh!!! lol  ;D

                               
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: wildernesstony12 January 15, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
also,looking at the map WOW must be beautiful do you ice fish there??
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: thebushnut January 16, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
no fishing was done :(
Weather was great, and it was nice to see Acurrier and Matt again. had some good "Tent Talks"
friday night I started getting sick...fever, chills, coughing.
Saturday Acurrier and Matt headed home and BV went to meet his wife and friend Dean to guide them back to the camp site.
I spent the Saturday huddled in my tent stuffing the stove and drinking pine needle tea trying to feel better.
I had another horrible night, and used up my last ASA tablet.
Sunday morning my fever broke and I slowly packed up.
by the time everyone else was packed up as well BV was also sick with a hacking cough and obvious fatigue.
I'm certain that if we both hadn't had our dogs doing quite a bit of pulling we would still be out on that trail.
Great thanks also to Dean who traded sleds with me and also helped BV pull his on the climbs. we couldn't have done it without you man!
We eventually made it back to the cars. Driving the 2h back to the city was scary. Have you ever sneezed while a transport is passing you? I made it back in one piece, my wife helped me unload the truck and I showered and hit the sack around 4pm....didn't wake up until sometime monday afternoon.
I've missed work all week because of this pox! only today have started feeling myself.
other than that I had a great time and would love to do it again next month! I will pack lighter as well!
I'll post some photos as soon as I find the Stupid cable!

Bushnut
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier January 16, 2014, 01:07:13 AM
Glad to hear I wasn't the only one who got sick...I'm still fighting a bad cough. At least for me it didn't hit until the day after I got home. Had a great trip once again, really enjoyed seeing everyone.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: wildernesstony12 January 16, 2014, 07:48:07 AM
sorry to here you guys got sick,but that's one great thing about hot tenting you can stay warm.yes i have sneezed while an 18 wheeler and bigger have passed me lol. Well i am glade your feeling better hope you find the cable love to see the pictures.

                                                CHEERS!!!! 
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: Grizzly Adam January 16, 2014, 09:37:02 AM
Your not alone brothers, I started the caugh and high feaver on friday night also havent got proper sleep for a week. not cool going to the doctor this morning it feels like my lungs have fluid in them. wtf is this bug and how do we get rid of it . POO Grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur January 16, 2014, 09:52:57 AM
Everything was going so great!

A great trip in then on the way out it was like Napoleon's retreat from Moscow!

Glad folk are recovering now. I was really bad until late Monday when my fever broke. I woke up in a pool of sweat, all bedsheets soaked but at least feeling better.

The bad news is that Selena has now come down with it.

Highlights- Grizz disappearing alone into the snowstorm when he left on Friday(very Scott of the Antarctic!), Selena producing an intact chocolate cake from the grub box on her toboggan (this had rolled a couple of times on the way in), Holly pulling my fully loaded toboggan at speed across the lake in pursuit of the snowmobiles

Lowlights- throwing up at 2 am onto the bough floor, not being able to walk up hill even at the same speed as someone on skis pulling two toboggans...

Let's head north soon!

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam January 16, 2014, 12:33:34 PM
Hope ya all feeling better I just got back from doc's my cold/flu/zombie virus has mutated into pnumonia and he say another week of this crap. Bolloks and next weekend is the Scouts winter camp at Amisk thankfully my participation will be limited .

Ps Feb 1-2 is when I will be heading to my shack at Mars for a little B-day debaucherey all are welcome apparently I turned 40 on thr 24 of Jan but feel like 90 right now lol cheers Grizz.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: GearFreak January 16, 2014, 01:25:48 PM
WOW!  :o  I am sure glad I did not join you bunch.  ;)  I had a cold when I went to Riding Mountain the week before but thankfully it was not the bug you guys caught.  At least you all share!  Griz - Pnumonia sucks and the worst part is once you get it  - you get it even easier so be on the watch for colds that don't clear up in due time (that and the pain).

Get better all!  and I can't wait for pics of the area. Still planning my next trip somewhere I can fish.  Thinking of near Big Whiteshell area in Mantario zone.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: wildernesstony12 January 16, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
i can believe how you all felt i have been there,but i was looking at the temps up there if i was a virus i would be hauling ass south lol. hope you all get better and get back to the bush,HAPPY BIRTHDAY GRIZZ

                                                tony
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: SupGen January 16, 2014, 05:10:02 PM
  "Napoleon's retreat from Moscow"! BV, you get the prize for "Evocative Prose". What a word picture! I guess close-quarters in a hot-tent is a great way for everyone to share what one person started out with! Glad you all survived and I hope everyone gets better.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: McLeod January 16, 2014, 09:01:29 PM

Thanks a lot for the invite on your group trip, Chris!

I really enjoyed meeting more hot tenting people, and just being out; Shield Country is just a good place to be as often as possible.

Your sled ran 'beauteeful smooth' (to quote Blackbeard from True North), thank-you very much.

Still healthy here - and thankful! Glad to hear you are on the mend. Soon, too for Selena, I hope.

Going North would be just fine!

Dean
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier January 17, 2014, 01:25:02 AM
Unfortunately I won't be able to make it to your birthday celebration Grizz (happy birthday by the way), but by some miracle it looks like I'll be off March 6-17. It isn't a guaranteed thing yet, but it looks good. If I play my cards right, I might even get permission from the wife for another 3 day trip...if anyone else is interested.

Lets all agree to leave the viruses at home this time though.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur February 19, 2014, 09:07:44 AM
Any more news on whether you will have some time off in March?

If you do, any thoughts on a location?

BV
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Grizzly Adam February 19, 2014, 09:25:26 AM
would like to get a spring trip in but March is a busy month for Jon and I , 7/8/9 th I am on scout course at Gimli bible camp lol there better be SOMETHING about WOOD in wood badge 2 lol. and the 1/8/15 th Jon and I are doing triathalon MB events for Bushcraft . The end of March may work cheers Grizz
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur February 19, 2014, 04:21:34 PM
You're way too in demand! ::)

The question was really addressed at acurrier as he mentioned that he may have some more time off.

I'm hoping to head out this Friday if I can get this *!*!*!*! thesis draft completed.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier February 19, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
I did manage to get March 6-17 off. I don't have a location in mind yet, but hopefully something north of Winnipeg. The Whiteshell is nice, but it is about 5 hours from my house. Do you have any spots to recommend? There are some conservation areas near town here, but I haven't been to them.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur February 19, 2014, 06:56:41 PM
Have you considered Riding Mountain NP. There would be an issue about cutting boughs but I think they provide firewood.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier February 19, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
That could work, it is only ~2 hours to the south end of the park. Have you been there before? I'm not sure how developed it is...if it is like Bird's Hill park, it will be tough to find good camping.
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: Bothwell Voyageur February 19, 2014, 07:47:19 PM
GearFreak knows the area pretty well and Mcleod was there in the last couple of weeks. I have the guide book but have only been in there for winter day trips, mostly at the west end of the park.

I suspect we would need to pick the route well to avoid mountain climbing!
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: GearFreak February 19, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
Hey Guys,

Firewood will be provided at Whirlpool, Moon Lake, and probably Lake Audy as well.  Look on the maps for picnic shelters.  Most backcountry sites have firewood during the season but check with the park to find when it is stocked (fall or spring).  Very few of the interior roads will be plowed.  I would suggest you start your adventure from a developed trailhead that is plowed.  Watch the weather forecast for snow as the Lake Audy Road can take up to 5 days before being ploughed out.

Call the park for information on firewood availability.  It will be mostly likely be large poplar needing splt.

Random Winter camping in the backcountry is allowed - register with the park.  Confirm use of deadwood for firewood.

I would try Whirlpool next for myself as the ski trails nearby give a great day trip.  They are groomed by volunteers. 

At Moon lake we really hammered the firewood by the cook shelter on the January weekend.  But the firewood stash in the campground was good and right next to a privy.  Campsites are not ploughed so they would make a nice little trek but still have some conveniences.  You may see a couple of other people out for a snowshoe.  If you tuck yourself in the campground you may never even see them.

If you decide to head down one of the summer trails I would stay away from the east side escarpment ones.  After Horseshoe lakes elevation changes - these are steeper.  Very pretty but very steep.

This outlook is on the Gorge Creek Trail, it is like a peninsula that sticks out where two valleys intersect. you ascend one side and descend the other.

(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m534/srworden/P1030969.jpg) (http://s1130.photobucket.com/user/srworden/media/P1030969.jpg.html)

: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: acurrier February 19, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Thanks GearFreak, I appreciate the advice. You are, of course, more than welcome to join us for this trip if you're available. Speaking of availability, as far as dates I'm wide open at the moment between March 6-17. BV, what days are you available?
: Re: Winnipeg Area 2014 Group Trip
: GearFreak February 19, 2014, 11:18:09 PM
Thanks guys,
It pains me to pass on an opportunity to go out to that area, but spring is tax season.  Its hard to forecast how my time goes during this time of year.  If I don't get buried I may slip out so I will watch to see what you guys do. 

If you do have a route in mind I can ask some folks who I know have hiked most of the park.  I have heard of a major antler SHED area that one day I would love to see.  Bob Hill lake is also nice country a fellow I know quite well had a bear sniff all around his tent, then later he had a bull moose walk around it and in the water by his tent.  After that he took to the car (it was the same time of year as my photo - a few days later actually).


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: acurrier February 19, 2014, 11:21:00 PM
Was this summer camping? I would be surprised to encounter any bears this time of year.

What are the parking areas in the winter? Do they have plowed lots?
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: GearFreak February 20, 2014, 11:54:50 AM
Was this summer camping? I would be surprised to encounter any bears this time of year.
It was late September in 2010, but it helps to show that the western side of the park is the better area for wildlife.

What are the parking areas in the winter? Do they have plowed lots?

Limited parking is ploughed, Moon Lake, and I believe a lot or two on the Eastern road (start of Grey Owl/Ski Trails).  Whirlpool is not usually ploughed and the gate is usually closed. It was not locked in November.  Best to check with the park staff if you want a confirmation on what is ploughed.  Many of the roads are not cleared in the winter.  The staff are really friendly and helpful I have found.


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: Bothwell Voyageur February 20, 2014, 08:28:29 PM
It sounds like parking at the start of the roadway to Whirlpool Lake then hauling the 3-4km down to the camping area may be our best bet.

I can make some calls next week to check on the wood situation at this and other locations.

BV
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: acurrier February 20, 2014, 09:24:48 PM
Sounds good to me. What days work for you?
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: Bothwell Voyageur February 21, 2014, 09:13:51 AM
At the moment I am entirely flexible over dates. Slight inconveniences like job interviews or thesis committees may arise but if I can get some dates pinned down sooner rather than alter it lets me give Selena more notice. Not sure if she will have the time to come along but either way Friday to Sunday or Saturday to Monday are both good though other days could work.

Anyone else interested?
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: acurrier February 21, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
Lets tentatively plan for March 7-9 then. As BV said, everyone is welcome to come out for the trip.
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: GearFreak February 21, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
I will watch the dates and see how things go.  It would be nice to go out and play when it is not -30 for a change.
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: Grizzly Adam February 24, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Have a great trip fellas, alass I am on my Woodbadge 2 course for Scouts that weekend so get some down time for me guys and maybe a drink or 2 lol , This coming weekend Jon and I are at a triathlon MB event doing bushcraft. and this saturday my Scout group is heading to the Mars hut for a over night with the bell tent again, feel free to pop bye and say Hi to the kids Rose will be there with Sonja I will be there later in the day on Saturday.cheers Grizz
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: GearFreak February 26, 2014, 11:14:05 AM
I will watch the dates and see how things go.  It would be nice to go out and play when it is not -30 for a change.

This morning as I moped about the house complaining about the continued Polar Vortex my darling wife suggested I should stop playing with the golf clubs and instead think about going on another camping trip.  Ain't she a keeper!
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: Bothwell Voyageur February 26, 2014, 11:56:13 AM
I find myself with very mixed feelings right now. I love my winter camping and would happily enjoy another 6 weeks of winter but everyday modern life is hugely inconvenienced by this cold windy weather. Even things like walking the dog is hard and trying to keep the snow clear of the gate to the back yard has become a major task!

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: Grizzly Adam February 26, 2014, 02:02:33 PM
at this rate we will have snow till april for sure WEIRD
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: awbrown: N. Illinois, USA February 26, 2014, 02:53:02 PM
She is indeed a keeper.......ask her if she'd like to adopt a chubby, bearded, 65 year year old...
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: Bothwell Voyageur February 26, 2014, 03:36:39 PM
So, back on topic!

I spoke with Parks Canada and yes there should be plenty of firewood available at Whirlpool Lake for us. We can park at the road end and snowshoe the 3 km into the campsite.

We need to pick up permits from the office before heading out which also lets us catch up on the latest news about trail conditions etc before we go. We could pay over the phone but I'd rather buy them when we arrive in case we have another 30cm of snow and they close the roads etc the night before.

Looking forward to it.
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: GearFreak February 26, 2014, 04:30:38 PM
Thanks BV, I am thinking I may slip away - If I get bogged down it may only be for a night but why fight something you can't win.

Too Funny AwBrown!

Maybe I will bring a wedge and pound snowballs into the lake. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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: GearFreak February 27, 2014, 04:14:49 PM
I'm out - no doubt now in my mind.   :'(
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: acurrier February 27, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
I spoke with Parks Canada and yes there should be plenty of firewood available at Whirlpool Lake for us. We can park at the road end and snowshoe the 3 km into the campsite.

We need to pick up permits from the office before heading out which also lets us catch up on the latest news about trail conditions etc before we go. We could pay over the phone but I'd rather buy them when we arrive in case we have another 30cm of snow and they close the roads etc the night before.

Thanks for looking into that BV. Lets meet at the east gate (off Hwy 19) and then head into the park from there. Will 10am work for you? If you want an earlier start, it is only two hours from my place. I've had to leave around 6am the last few times we've gone to the Whiteshell anyway.

Gearfreak, sorry to hear you can't make it, hopefully we'll have another opportunity to get together.
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: Bothwell Voyageur February 28, 2014, 11:52:15 AM
It's a good four hour drive for me so 10 would be about as early as I can make it. I'll have to deal with a grumpy dog when she finds that she is being left behind but I know that Selena likes to have her at home for company.

It would be better for me to meet at the main entrance or even at the main office- takes about as long and saves having to then drive along the 19 and back to get the permits.

Sorry you can't get out GF. Let me know if another date comes up, I going to try to get as many night out as I can before winter ends.

BV
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: acurrier March 03, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Didn't realize you could only get permits at the main entrance. That will work fine, I'll see you at the main office at 10 on Friday.