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Title: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: GearFreak on November 04, 2018, 07:52:40 PM
Saw this on Lar's Survival Russia channel.  I like this!  I wish I could get a window door for my Kni-co
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31jp5PSje2I

If the currency exchange website worked right it was about 168 Cad to 8500 Rub, 250 for the medium.

shipping would probably be a killer

its pretty cool, nay, its Awesome!
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: AunNordDuNord on November 04, 2018, 10:10:43 PM
Look well made, Price is good(before shipping lol) a bit heavy, but that is the price to pay to have a view!! I really like the simplicity of the door system!!

Damn Russians!!
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: kiggy on November 05, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
They claim this type of stove can heat for 8 -10 hours in slow burning mode without adding the wood.   medium size  5 kg only and one load of wood will hold 5-8 hours in slow burning mode
Damn Russians indeed.

I am looking for them for couple of years now. just waiting for shipping occasion lol
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: Bothwell Voyageur on November 05, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
Just video the stove with the door open then sit watching your phone while you are sitting by the stove...
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: Bioguide on November 05, 2018, 04:42:24 PM
Neat stove...it's got me to thinking about a window for mine and I wonder if you bought a piece of stove glass custom sized and rigged it in front of a FourDog Ti stove door opening some how? Just for ambiance while gazing out the clear vinyl front door on a cold windy evening... then take it off and close the regular door when not in use. I'm gonna try this.

I can obtain custom stove glass from here: https://www.woodstove-fireplaceglass.com/ The opening to my Ti stove is 6.5" x 6.5" so I'd get a 6.5" x 4" piece, which only cost $35 or so. The bottom 2.5" would have to be sheet metal for air intake openings (adjustable of course) and I'd fashion the sheet metal so the glass would slide in top down and I'd have to rig it to the stove door opening somehow. It'll be crude for sure but Gerry rigging is what I'm good at.

Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: kiggy on November 05, 2018, 05:05:48 PM
Neat stove...it's got me to thinking about a window for mine and I wonder if you bought a piece of stove glass custom sized and rigged it in front of a FourDog Ti stove door opening some how? Just for ambiance while gazing out the clear vinyl front door on a cold windy evening... then take it off and close the regular door when not in use. I'm gonna try this.

I can obtain custom stove glass from here: https://www.woodstove-fireplaceglass.com/ The opening to my Ti stove is 6.5" x 6.5" so I'd get a 6.5" x 4" piece, which only cost $35 or so. The bottom 2.5" would have to be sheet metal for air intake openings (adjustable of course) and I'd fashion the sheet metal so the glass would slide in top down and I'd have to rig it to the stove door opening somehow. It'll be crude for sure but Gerry rigging is what I'm good at.
what about air intake? never mind, I need to wake up :)



Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: Canoe on November 05, 2018, 06:08:09 PM
ATUK sells stoves with a glass door now. Has anyone tried them?
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: Coldfeet on November 05, 2018, 06:19:04 PM
pretty cool, thought the guy was very amusing.   Nice to see others around the world enjoying the great outdoors. 
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: awbrown: N. Illinois, USA on November 05, 2018, 07:44:33 PM
Brian Muraska (the Muskrat) likes to add windows to his experimental stoves. His are simply Pyrex custard cups pushed into a round hole. The biggest problem is that they smoke up quickly.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: mewolf1 on November 05, 2018, 09:12:45 PM
Without air wash over the glass it'll be sooty in jig time.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: Jawax on November 05, 2018, 10:03:22 PM
I would absolutely LOVE to have a small window in my stove.  The Atuk ones look cool, but weigh far to much.  It would be great if Kni-co would come up with an option for just a little 2x4 inch window or so.  Until then, I'm going to give some consideration to learning how to weld. 

Here's a good YouTube of a guy who did a really great job building an entire stove, which included a small glass window with air wash.  It's a several part video, and the window bit is on the second one.  https://youtu.be/kiVjRoeQjp8
 (https://youtu.be/kiVjRoeQjp8)
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: memaquay on November 06, 2018, 10:40:31 AM
Read some of the comments on the video on youtube.  Quite a discussion about which way the pipes should go.  Internet warriors said male crimped end should go up or everyone in the world will die of CO poisoning.  People who actually have burned wood in a tent knew that to prevent leakage of the noxious cresote type stuff that comes from burning softwood, the male crimped side has to go down.

I have burned a lot of wood in my little kni co and two hole hippy burner with the crimped end facing down, and I am still alive.  In fact i have never worried once about CO poisoning in a tent.  Am I foolish?  Are the internet warriors correct?
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: Bioguide on November 06, 2018, 11:00:11 AM
I have burned a lot of wood in my little kni co and two hole hippy burner with the crimped end facing down, and I am still alive.  In fact i have never worried once about CO poisoning in a tent.  Am I foolish?  Are the internet warriors correct?

Yes, foolish... haven't you been watching the news? There has been yet another symposium group of 50+ winter campers that succumbed to carbon monoxide poisoning.

Have you changed your CO detector batteries yet?  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

P.S. I hear all their Snowtrekker tents and FourDog Ti stoves are listed on E-Bay at 1/2 price.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: rabbit on November 06, 2018, 08:32:28 PM
I have heated my house with a woodstove for 30+ years with the pipes installed crimped end down to avoid  creosote running down the outside of the pipe. Apparently I am lucky to be alive. LOL

                                                Les
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: GearFreak on November 06, 2018, 10:12:20 PM
Found Another Stove - nomad.  looks heavy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyNCZUK5GpI

the ad during this video was for seek outside. tarp & stove under 9 lbs.

https://springbarcanvas.com/products/winnerwell-nomad-medium-tent-stove

20lbs $349US
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: AunNordDuNord on November 07, 2018, 01:36:27 AM
I'll play, my dream stove would be 18" long, about 8 inches wide and around 14 inches tall( fire box that is) and would be made of Titanium, could have a small window but it add weight and maintenance so I'm not sold on the idea... could have a baffle but would need to be totally and easily removable. The door would need to be as large a possible for ease of loading wood and as air tight as possible! The chimney flange would be on the outside so again you don't fight when loading that last piece of wood in!! Double bottom, snow legs....

 
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: rbinhood on November 07, 2018, 07:18:24 AM
ANDN---When you build that stove, make 2, as I'm putting my order in for one.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: AunNordDuNord on November 07, 2018, 11:10:24 AM
ANDN---When you build that stove, make 2, as I'm putting my order in for one.
Hahaha, don't hold your breath my friend. I do have a few ideas for stoves, but I really doubt I have the knowledge or ability to make such a stove. But I didi share my ideas with stove builders like Kni-co, four dog and the " muskrat" brothers.... None of them were interested in making them... That said the Brothers had one with the similar dimensions, I think they called it the cabover or something like that.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: southcove on January 07, 2019, 04:19:33 PM
...add this little Ti stove to the short list of those wood burners that have a small glass window!  This is a little Korean made Ti stove that breaks down. 

I have been looking for a breakdown or folding stove for my next planned Alaska/Yukon fall trip, this year or the year after.  What appeals to me is that it's small enough to go in a canoe or small paddle raft, which is one of our needs.   This one might actually fit into our double kayak!
Downsides are costs, though it's not unreasonable for Ti.  I like the little glass window, but it's a tiny stove indeed and with the numerous bits and pieces, surely a bag of fastener spares would be needed on any trip, short or long.   
For any of our shelter applications, I would have to rig up an angled piece of flue, somehow...I think heat output for our pre-wintertime needs would be fine.  And a homemade leg float would be easy enough to craft in camp.

Have heard some encouraging things about the selling dealer, but have no experience yet with a fold down stove or fold down Ti or this brand.   

I am curious to see what other stove people think about this unit?  And/or my need and fix for an angled pipe for my shelters or breakdown issues with other stoves, sheetmetal, stainless or Ti...?



https://luxe-hiking-gear.com/collections/tent-wood-stoves-and-accessories/products/folding-wood-stove-titanium  (https://luxe-hiking-gear.com/collections/tent-wood-stoves-and-accessories/products/folding-wood-stove-titanium)

Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: trapmusher on January 07, 2019, 05:54:36 PM
Nice stove, Southcove.

Windows are pretty and all that but, unless you burn hot, they get black in a hurry.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: rbinhood on January 07, 2019, 08:37:21 PM
Looking at the dimensions, it seems pretty small.

I picked up a used one of the Norwegian stainless stoves cheap and haven't really had a chance to test it, but the firebox is small, and I am wondering how much heat it will really put out. Wood was so short it was hard to light. Part of the problem is it has a built in oven, and the oven takes up a good bit of the firebox. I am not expecting much heat without constant stoking.

Look at the stoves that Seek Outside has. For the same money, I think you can get a bigger stove.
Title: Re: Wood Stove with Windows
Post by: JoDawg on January 07, 2019, 09:54:55 PM
How about this one, https://springbarcanvas.com/products/winnerwell-nomad-medium-tent-stove