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Fire and Woodstoves / Re: DIY Stainless Cooking Pot Stove
« on: February 19, 2018, 11:17:34 am »
Nice. I think I could make something like that.... A bit limiting for the cooking surface, but look like it work good!! Legs look like  pieces of Easton all poles salvage from an old tent....

For sure the cooking surface is not optimal. It took a couple of small stainless camping plates, and cut curvatures in opposing sidewalls which matched the curvature of the stove body an riveted the onto the stove body, giving falt surfaces to rest 2 pots. I also drilled out a number of holes in the bottom of the plate before attaching it to the stove body to help heat transfer.

At the time I did not have any contacts that were willing to do small welding jobs on stainless steel for reasonable prices, (which I now have).  A better solution might have been to cut off the top 1/3 of the stove body and weld a flat piece of stainless steel to the top. Better for cooking and a better mating surface for the stovepipe collar.

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Fire and Woodstoves / Re: DIY Stainless Cooking Pot Stove
« on: February 19, 2018, 10:45:43 am »
I really like my Seekoutside Ti stove...so if you have something innovative to bring to the table you have my attention

Bkrgi,
The Seek Outside stoves appear to be great folding stoves at a decent price considering the material costs and and labour to make them. While I haven't used one I have no doubt they work extremely well because they are essentially a titanium version (with some minor modifications) of the stainless steel box stoves that Ed Tyanich had been making for Kifaru for years, of which I've owned 3 in different sizes.

But that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this thread, which is about the strengths and weaknesses of one particular low budget DIY stove prototype.

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Classifieds / Re: Snowtrekker EXP Shortwall 10 x 13
« on: February 17, 2018, 07:34:38 pm »


Out with the old, in with the new.  I had the stovejack replaced today by Northwest Wall Tents in Surrey.   I asked the owner to look over the condition of the canvas and he confirmed that it was in very good condition. I drew his attention to some spots on one side and he stated that they were just stains, likely from sap, but definitely not from mold or mildew.

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Fire and Woodstoves / Re: DIY Stainless Cooking Pot Stove
« on: February 17, 2018, 04:02:57 am »
I should mention that this stove was slapped together quickly and on a tight budget. Other than the stainless foil for the pipe and some of the stainle spark arrestor mesh (both purchased from Kifaru), I was into the project for about $60 CDN.  The firebox worked well and generally drafted well, but I have decommissioned the stove for reasons I'll mention later.

For the legs, I used stainless steel allthread, each leg passing through 2 holes on the both sides front and back. Each leg had 4 nuts and washers clamping the stove body from the inside and outside on both the upper and lower holes. I had about 4" of allthread extend down from the bottom of each hole, and just enough allthreadh coming out through the top hole to slip on a washer and secure a nut. I used some short pieces of Easton tent pole to slip over the bottom portion of the allthread to extend the legs. Total stove was around 10-11 lbs.

The legs were the major weak link of this setup and they simply weren't strong enough to provide a sturdy reliable base. I should used 1 W shaped hinge leg spanning the left and right side on the front and another on the back. While I could have changed the leg system easily enough, I decided abandon this design and make a couple of tatedown cylinder stoves instead.
For my purposes need a stove that will fold into a compact package and is about 1/4 of the weight or less.  I'm in the preliminary stages a couple of very compact and lightweight stoves (one from stainless, the other from titanium). They will have some modifications that will make their setup superfast and eliminate messing about with small screws, nuts, turnbuckles and such. I will post details once Im further along in a separate thread

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Fire and Woodstoves / DIY Stainless Cooking Pot Stove
« on: February 16, 2018, 04:12:01 am »
A couple of people ha inquired about a stove that had appeared in 2 of  thead im the Classified section for the Snowtrekker tent I have for sale www.wintertrekking.com/community/index.php?topic=4714.0

Rather than explain it there, I decided to provide more information here. It was made from 3 stainless steel cooking pots that the I bought on sale from Canadian Tire.  They had a slight taper toward the bottom.

I cut the bottom 1.5”  off the bottom of 2 of the pots. I then slid the bottom of one cut pot into the top of The uncut pot, and the bottom of the 2nd cut pot into the top of the 1st. This gave about 1.5” of overlap at each joint with the successive pot jammed firmly into one another. The joints were secured with about 10 stainless steel rivets per joint.

 To create an endplate on the open end (top) of the pot, I took one of the cut bottoms and trimmed the the side wall down to about 0.5”. I then cut an opening for the door, and slid the sidewall into the top of  the barrel until it jammed snugly. I then riveted it in place.  This gave a stove body that was about 22” long by 10.5“ in diameter.

For the door, I used the other cut off bottom and cut it to a size that would overlap the opening cut. I used a stainless steel piano hinge I happened to have ha laying around and riveter it to the door and to the endplate. I added a latch to the door and catch for the latch on the end plade. I used some of the leftover flat steel to create round vent adjuster.

More info still to come...





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Classifieds / Re: Snowtrekker EXP Shortwall 10 x 13
« on: February 15, 2018, 01:09:36 pm »
Hi AunNordduNord and Rbinhood,

Yes, I made the stove, details here:

www.wintertrekking.com/community/index.php?topic=4730.msg43477#msg43477

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Classifieds / Re: Snowtrekker EXP Shortwall 10 x 13
« on: February 14, 2018, 07:15:22 pm »


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Snowshoeing Discussion / Re: Norwegian snow shoe Fimbulvetr ?
« on: February 10, 2018, 02:50:23 am »
Thanks Caribou!
Yes I'd agree rthat in most backcountry conditions, the traditionals will do better. On a situation where there is a group of about 6-10 people going up a series of switchbacks, and  you are the only one with traditionals, you'd be at some advantage for trail breaking but at a disadvantage when following in the broken trail (which would be most of the time with a group that size) because the traditional s don't fit neatly within the trench created by the others. The outside edges of the shoes lift and inside edges drop, making fot a very awkward gait.
It's funny how many stares I get using the traditionals on the extremely heavily trodden "snowshoe trails" in North Vancouver. Most people there have never seen traditional snowshoes before. Mind you those trails are so heavily trodden, that you could easily most of the trail with just boots.

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Other Winter Camping Gear / Re: Breathing Into Your Bag?
« on: February 09, 2018, 10:40:22 am »
In addition to what Eric said, adding a fur ruff (coyote, wolf or wolverine) to the hood will warm the air around your face and will be frost resistant

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Classifieds / Snowtrekker EXP Shortwall 10 x 13
« on: February 09, 2018, 04:26:22 am »
Update: Price drop on account of my ordering an expensive backpacking shelter and now needing to make room in my budget accordingly.  New price 875 USD or 1125 CDN including shipping to lower 48 states or Canadian provinces.

Hello,
I have a Snowtrekker EXP Shortwall 10 x 13 tent that I bought used from Duane about 7 years ago when I lived in Winnipeg. Later that year,  I moved to the Vancouver area.

When I lived in Manitoba, my primary modes of backcountry travel were snowshoeing with pulk, canoeing, powerboating and occasional snowmobile. All great ways to haul a snowtrekker tent.

Now that I'm in Vancouver, my circumstances have changed and my means of backcountry travel has been limited to backpacking and paddling SUPs and kayaks. These modes of travel demand ultralight and compact shelters and to forego the tremendous creature comforts the snowtrekker tent had provided. I haven't been able to use this tent often enough to justify keeping it.

A brand new uncut stove jack has been professionally sewn in that you can cut to suit your your stove pipe diameter.

Priced for a quick sell at $ 875 USD or $1125 CDN which included shipping to any location in the lower 48 US or Canadian provinces.

Mark












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Snowshoeing Discussion / Re: Norwegian snow shoe Fimbulvetr ?
« on: February 09, 2018, 02:13:43 am »
Hi Guys,
This is my first post on wintertrekking.com  as FlatbowBC, although I used to post a few years ago as FlatbowMB. To make a long story short I move from Manitoba to BC about 6 years ago, and decided to get back on this forum.
When I lived in Winnipeg, my traditional huron snowshoes were ideal for both open prairie  fields and the Canadian Shield terrain. I preferred them over modern aluminum framed snowshoes for their better floatation and also they were much more quiet, which was especially important when using them for hunting. The cold dry snow that was encountered most of the time didn't demand a lot of maintenance of the rawhide coating.
Now that I live near Vancouver the biggest challenge I encounter is the wet snow conditions, which play havoc on the varnish coatings. The rawhide needs to be recoated after every 2 outings or so, which just isn't practical. I'm tempted to restring the frames with that monofilament.
 The traditional snowshoes have provided respectable traction on steep terrain - better than some modern snowshoes, but not as well as mountain specific modern snowshoes such as those by MSR. The lattice created by the rawhide as well as the texture from the rawhide wrapping around the wooden frame is surprisingly grippy.  I had recently purchased a pair of Atlas snowshoes of craigslist (for $40 😉) and tried them two weekends ago on a popular local trail that is notoriously steep, I had done this trail last winter with my traditional snowshoes (with difficulty), and found the Atlas snowshoes to be far less grippy (even with the modern bindings and claws). People using the various MSR models were getting good traction. I suppose I could resell the Atlas shoes quickly enough, then again may hang on to them to lend to friends.
This afternoon, I just received a pair of Altai Hok (125 cm) hybrid ski-shoes (with universal bindings) which I ordered last week. I'll be trying these out for the first time on Saturday on the same steep trail. I'll let you know how they perform. It should be a blast sliding back down the slope on them with a tiak pole.

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