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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2017, 11:04:21 pm »
Price is right but they do not ship overseas, not even when I asked nicely

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2017, 11:44:11 pm »
Buggers!!

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2017, 07:47:31 pm »
German Army snow camouflage ponchos were very cheap on eBay so I just spent $25- AUD and bought one.
Useless As-Is for our conditions but roofing silicon is cheap as is white spirit so when it arrives I'll stretch it out tight [ hot wash first to shrink it of course] and waterproof it.
I'll need an insulated liner and I am very tempted to use the Thinsulate that was reserved for my new parka in a hybrid between some UL polyester and some polartec Thermal-Pro

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2017, 10:05:25 pm »
The description on ebay says it is made from breathable, cotton fabric. I do not understand why you would want to waterproof it with silicone, in the process, turning it into a sauna suit?
Unless you are planning on trimming it up, it looks far too long in the back to be really functional.

Here is an interesting one: https://colemans.com/shop/clothing/coats/parka-u-s-g-i-snow-camo/
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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2017, 10:22:37 pm »
Siliconing does make it highly water resistant but not totally waterproof, but I'm in  Wet-Cold area and making sure you stay dry [ drier anyway] is more important than breathability here, my main reason for using this is because the proofed nylon ones tend to melt when working around an open fire and using this will keep the wind off the LW breathable insulation underneath. With plenty of space between the inner and outer and with all the venting via the hood opening I doubt I will have any condensation worries, I get very few when using my waterproof Swiss or my Dutch army  poncho.
The US army NYCO snow camo parkas are OK but I need an XL to XXL in one, I know this because I already own a Med-large and it's way too small to cover my down parka
If you find an XXL please let me know
The length is almost perfect in the back for me and I keep the front under control with the provided tie-backs, the wrists on these are closed and have elastic in them also
I tend to cut off the bottom corners on these as a routine matter and use the scraps of fabric to make a pocket or two

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2017, 10:49:44 pm »
Midway USA has them for $9.99 USD, not sure how much shipping would be.
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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2017, 11:40:30 pm »
Midway do not ship International and if they did USPS minimum is more than I just paid
Good price locally tho
I was actually asking about XL /XL in the US army overwhite parka although I could cut mine up to use as a pattern if I had to

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2017, 08:12:57 am »
After this weekend with the weather changing from 40f to 20f with freezing rain I am definitely going to have some kind of overcover to shed the freezing rain and wind when setting around the fire.

The hot tent is a great refuge when you have to dry out, but I enjoy the group campfire.

I believe I have 2 of the German army winter camo covers somewhere, gotta find them.
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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2017, 04:10:25 pm »
I use about 10 % silicon in solvent, it is important to get the most flexible silicon compound tho, even if it is more expensive to start with.
I use the same for reproofing nylon and polyester tents and for seam sealing

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2017, 01:55:11 am »
If I make a lining from scratch rather than using the very thin Australian army issue I have what weight of insulation would people recommend
I could also make a woollen blanket liner to use for car camping too

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2017, 01:12:43 am »
Well I just started making a hooded poncho liner to suit. I have used a single bed polyester quilt I bought for $6- in a local Op-Shop
100GSM fibre inside polypropylene scrim, there was enough to fit the poncho and make a hood with a scrap to use for a small pillow left over, 25mm of loft and incredibly warm with the poncho over the top of it, mind you it is still warm here at the start of Autumn
Now having an internal debate about covering it on both sides , lining it with something cosy or slippery of simply stitching it to the cotton shell and using it as-is

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2017, 07:15:14 am »
I just weighed the combo
1500 grams for the liner with hood and the poncho together
The silicon proofing will add about 100 grams
So almost double the weight of a Kifaru Woobie but the same warmth and about the same weight as the nylon poncho plus issue poncho liner but so much warmer, the issue poncho liner is 3mm thick; this is 25mm plus
Note tho that the Kifaru isn't even remotely fire resistant

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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2017, 06:12:42 pm »
Lets see if Photobucket works

http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/ejmalthouse/media/IMG_9742_zpszltqhnkc.jpg.html

The insulation as-is 25mm thick with polypro scrim on both sides

http://s1380.photobucket.com/user/ejmalthouse/media/IMG_9745_zps1qgcokts.jpg.html


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Re: Cloaks/ponchos as winter clothing
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2017, 11:58:36 am »
What does it look like with a belt/sash?

An interesting idea

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